1 00:00:04,460 --> 00:00:09,640 Why would Free share those wedding videos and tape a threatening video about it? Free 2 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:14,900 Balmers was at a family party. U contradicts thirty witnesses by saying 3 00:00:14,900 --> 00:00:19,980 stating that her alibi is incorrect. It it all started with a gendarme 4 00:00:19,980 --> 00:00:23,940 Beukelaars. He stated that a woman's voice had lured him away from his 5 00:00:23,940 --> 00:00:25,320 post on January 1st. 6 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:30,080 There is one in Brechtje's room crawl space. Between the planks in the 7 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:33,620 we have dried blood in the attic found that we were able to match 8 00:00:33,620 --> 00:00:34,620 at the van Brechtje. 9 00:00:34,900 --> 00:00:39,100 I hate it when Friso starts talking about all those women you have cheated on. 10 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,220 I'm not asking you to lie. Stefan, what are you asking me? 11 00:00:42,860 --> 00:00:49,080 That incision in Roosje's throat, is it true that those with surgical 12 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:50,480 precision is made? 13 00:00:51,180 --> 00:00:55,600 I ask you because you practice medicine you have done. You can know. 14 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:59,540 Those are... No, here. 15 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:05,540 The jury are candle women and servants who occasionally feel like it. 16 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:10,180 It was eight years ago millionaire couple the meulenmeester 17 00:01:10,180 --> 00:01:11,760 gruesomely murdered in a homejacking. 18 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:15,560 Their daughter, Holly the Meulenmeester, is now head of the jury in the 19 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:18,660 millennium process. I really need to get rid of it of that house. 20 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:20,980 I had it for sale tomorrow wanted tonight. 21 00:01:21,500 --> 00:01:22,500 Two minutes nine. 22 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:24,640 Can that seem? 23 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:29,260 Is your ex doing that right or is it? that greaves? Do you see my cell phones? 24 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,420 I think I have a sex addiction. 25 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:35,580 Do you know what I'm good at? 26 00:01:36,340 --> 00:01:37,340 In pipes. 27 00:01:38,100 --> 00:01:41,420 The CLB simply said it the best thing is that we test Julietjes on 28 00:01:41,420 --> 00:01:43,520 autism. Karl, you have one daughter? 29 00:01:44,060 --> 00:01:45,320 Couldn't she babysit? 30 00:01:47,950 --> 00:01:50,930 A copy cannot replace your love. 31 00:01:51,270 --> 00:01:53,490 Hey, the Games Mopeds! 32 00:01:54,530 --> 00:01:55,530 Hey! 33 00:02:06,970 --> 00:02:09,830 Are you Brechtje's ex-fiancée? Finding bird? 34 00:02:10,350 --> 00:02:11,350 Yes. 35 00:02:13,230 --> 00:02:16,690 Have you seen Brechtje Vindenvogel? after twelve o'clock? 36 00:02:17,550 --> 00:02:20,090 On January 1, 2000, the day she disappeared? 37 00:02:20,710 --> 00:02:21,710 No. 38 00:02:22,770 --> 00:02:26,650 Did you argue with Brechtje? Vindevogel in the last moments you 39 00:02:26,650 --> 00:02:27,650 saw her? 40 00:02:27,830 --> 00:02:28,830 Yes. 41 00:02:31,050 --> 00:02:34,450 Did Free Palmers know to you that they Brechtje Vindevogel? 42 00:02:34,670 --> 00:02:35,670 Yes. 43 00:02:39,430 --> 00:02:43,050 Did Free Palmers tell you how they Brechtje Vindevogel? 44 00:02:43,330 --> 00:02:44,330 No. 45 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,880 Do you hope to gain benefits from it? To accuse Frie Palmers? 46 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:50,240 No. 47 00:02:54,500 --> 00:02:56,740 Did you kill Brechtje Vindervogel? 48 00:02:58,580 --> 00:02:59,580 No. 49 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:04,500 Have you cut Roos de Munk? 50 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:07,040 No. 51 00:03:10,460 --> 00:03:11,460 And? 52 00:03:12,700 --> 00:03:13,700 What do you think? 53 00:03:14,570 --> 00:03:17,210 It's not that I'm a psychiatrist that I can predict what such a machine will do 54 00:03:17,210 --> 00:03:18,210 is going to say. 55 00:03:20,050 --> 00:03:21,050 And? 56 00:03:21,590 --> 00:03:23,990 The stress level is very detrimental one question. 57 00:03:24,330 --> 00:03:26,010 And he is very clear about that lied. 58 00:03:29,590 --> 00:03:30,590 Which question? 59 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:07,620 And? It's okay. 60 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,080 She's awake, she can already smile again. 61 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:13,320 Okay. 62 00:06:17,980 --> 00:06:21,280 Good. It's just an allergic one response. Yes. 63 00:06:21,840 --> 00:06:24,980 She can go back home soon, she says the doctor. Okay. 64 00:06:28,860 --> 00:06:34,220 I will bring Kilian and Jente to you later go pick up mother and go to school? 65 00:06:34,340 --> 00:06:35,340 No, that's not necessary. 66 00:06:36,840 --> 00:06:38,140 I took a week off. 67 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:40,560 Okay. 68 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:43,340 Then I go back to Lola. 69 00:06:44,300 --> 00:06:47,200 You misunderstand me, snap. I'm going Bring Lola. 70 00:06:47,780 --> 00:06:48,800 And I'm going to throw. 71 00:06:49,500 --> 00:06:50,900 The boys always go to my mother's. 72 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:53,720 That's not necessary, is it? 73 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:56,560 Are you going to that jury? 74 00:06:56,700 --> 00:06:57,700 Then go to that jury. 75 00:07:04,140 --> 00:07:06,360 I couldn't have known that she was allergic was. 76 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:10,920 Davin, I'm so tired of always looking at you having to listen to lies. 77 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,660 If you want to go, just go in that one sitting on a row seat. 78 00:07:15,900 --> 00:07:17,640 But... What? 79 00:07:18,620 --> 00:07:21,200 I just don't want to see you for a while, okay? 80 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:23,560 Here is your hotel room. 81 00:08:05,808 --> 00:08:06,808 Good day. 82 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:10,080 Good day. 83 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:38,000 Yes. 84 00:08:41,260 --> 00:08:44,120 The GPS doesn't work. 85 00:08:44,660 --> 00:08:46,940 The GPS doesn't work. 86 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:51,840 The GPS doesn't work. 87 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:14,120 What do you want to drink? 88 00:10:09,370 --> 00:10:13,230 When are you going to realize that this proceedings must be conducted in court 89 00:10:13,230 --> 00:10:14,230 be? 90 00:10:16,310 --> 00:10:19,090 It's a shame that your boss has three years recently retired. 91 00:10:20,750 --> 00:10:22,290 Well, he was absolutely right. 92 00:10:22,770 --> 00:10:26,570 I've been working my ass off for three years now. But never in favor of Fri. 93 00:10:26,790 --> 00:10:30,450 I have been focusing my career on it for three years now game for a woman who is more important 94 00:10:30,450 --> 00:10:31,450 for you than anyone else. 95 00:10:31,910 --> 00:10:34,970 So you think Free is more important for me than you? 96 00:10:36,850 --> 00:10:38,990 Inga, you are jealous. 97 00:10:39,490 --> 00:10:40,770 Of course I'm jealous. 98 00:10:41,410 --> 00:10:42,389 On Free. 99 00:10:42,390 --> 00:10:43,650 Heading towards Christine. 100 00:10:45,310 --> 00:10:48,090 I'm jealous because she has another Mark have known. 101 00:10:48,670 --> 00:10:50,170 The Mark who could still laugh. 102 00:10:55,490 --> 00:10:58,050 I have nothing for or against Free. 103 00:10:58,370 --> 00:10:59,670 And I feel that too. 104 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:05,080 Stefan, Margot and Lud are going to do things keep quiet, but I will take up the matter 105 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,760 court the way I want them feed. 106 00:11:13,580 --> 00:11:18,260 From now on I won't do anything behind your back do. 107 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:19,520 Okay? 108 00:11:48,210 --> 00:11:53,290 The competent investigating judge Willems asked the chief inspector 109 00:11:53,290 --> 00:11:58,250 Pasqual to reconstruct the explain facts. Professor Cleo 110 00:11:58,250 --> 00:12:00,850 Mayeuw will testify as a medical doctor. 111 00:12:02,220 --> 00:12:05,960 Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, we would want to start with the facts from 2000. 112 00:12:06,560 --> 00:12:10,420 That was mainly for us important to find out whether the alibi 113 00:12:10,420 --> 00:12:14,280 from Mrs. Palmers was right at the moment that Brechtje Vindevogel disappeared. 114 00:12:14,740 --> 00:12:16,840 I show you the images of the reconstruction. 115 00:12:21,260 --> 00:12:22,260 Yes. 116 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:28,660 Good. You were on January 1, 2000 during the family party all the time in this one 117 00:12:28,660 --> 00:12:29,660 space available? 118 00:12:29,860 --> 00:12:31,420 No, no, no. I'm also... 119 00:12:35,260 --> 00:12:40,420 We are now going to look at one together family video of the party. 120 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:46,120 As you can see, you are regularly in image. 121 00:12:52,780 --> 00:12:57,860 Until 1pm and 1, when you suddenly leave image disappears after a long time 122 00:12:57,860 --> 00:12:59,220 to reappear later. 123 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:03,160 Not at first. 124 00:13:07,460 --> 00:13:08,460 Okay. 125 00:13:10,980 --> 00:13:14,480 Ultimately, you're not there for three hours visible on the images. Where were you? 126 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:16,220 between 1 p.m. and 4 p.m. and three? 127 00:13:16,940 --> 00:13:20,400 I need to go outside for a while nieces to go play. 128 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:26,720 Those two blonde cousins ​​are still walking regularly through the image between 1 p.m 129 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:28,320 and 4 and three, but not you. 130 00:13:30,190 --> 00:13:34,410 Sorry, it's been 18 years. I know it's not. It's not a crime after all 131 00:13:34,410 --> 00:13:36,730 walk around outside for about three hours? 132 00:13:37,030 --> 00:13:38,030 Het vroor die dag. 133 00:13:40,970 --> 00:13:45,870 Good. Brechtje's threatening video is over Made at 1:22 pm. 134 00:13:46,310 --> 00:13:48,190 We are going to investigate two things today. 135 00:13:48,470 --> 00:13:52,150 1. Could you go unnoticed from this party disappear? 2. 136 00:13:52,430 --> 00:13:56,250 You could reach there by bike in 10 minutes this house to the house 137 00:13:56,250 --> 00:13:57,250 Find bird? 138 00:13:59,070 --> 00:14:02,550 Good. May I then speak to my colleagues? ask to take a seat on the blue one 139 00:14:02,550 --> 00:14:03,550 cross? 140 00:14:04,690 --> 00:14:11,310 May I ask you to go through the kitchen? 141 00:14:11,310 --> 00:14:15,270 walk, take a bicycle in the courtyard and behind the parked cars on the 142 00:14:15,270 --> 00:14:16,270 to drive past the driveway? 143 00:14:17,570 --> 00:14:20,010 I will do it. 144 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:31,120 Is everyone ready? 145 00:14:31,380 --> 00:14:32,380 Okay. 146 00:14:59,850 --> 00:15:01,370 Did anyone see anything? 147 00:15:01,970 --> 00:15:02,970 Negative. 148 00:15:04,730 --> 00:15:07,890 Okay, negative. That's too much nonsense. 149 00:15:08,370 --> 00:15:11,910 How can I check who does what or haven't seen? 150 00:15:12,250 --> 00:15:14,750 Would you rather have all the blue ones yourself? take a seat crosses? 151 00:15:16,830 --> 00:15:17,830 Yes. 152 00:15:18,810 --> 00:15:21,430 Okay, good. Then we do this thirty times again. 153 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:52,000 That test proves nothing. 154 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:58,100 In 2000, fewer will be possible on that driveway cars have been there, other cars 155 00:15:58,100 --> 00:16:00,020 have stood. She has another one taken away. 156 00:16:00,300 --> 00:16:03,400 Master Spaak, we just finished all can see that Free Perfect that 157 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:05,740 family fest could have left without it to be seen. 158 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:08,840 Do you ever have her own statements? doubted? 159 00:16:27,870 --> 00:16:30,530 Five minutes, twelve seconds, that is nearby. 160 00:16:30,770 --> 00:16:34,670 What I don't understand is how that happens Gendarmerie that Vindervogel and Brechtje 161 00:16:34,670 --> 00:16:37,270 observed her the house does not have see you enter. 162 00:16:37,590 --> 00:16:39,170 I'll show you that right away. 163 00:16:45,850 --> 00:16:48,690 A photo of the telephone booth there was still standing then. 164 00:16:49,690 --> 00:16:54,230 It was announced at thirteen and eleven this phone booth called the mobile 165 00:16:54,230 --> 00:16:57,130 -number of Gendarmerie Beukelaars who stood guard there. 166 00:16:57,690 --> 00:17:00,450 He got a female voice on the line who told him immediately 167 00:17:00,450 --> 00:17:01,450 had to come home. 168 00:17:01,590 --> 00:17:02,730 Were you that female voice? 169 00:17:03,490 --> 00:17:04,490 No. 170 00:17:04,790 --> 00:17:08,490 And then it was in that telephone room probably a yellow pages. And 171 00:17:08,490 --> 00:17:12,150 it includes Beukelaars' mobile number underlined in red. 172 00:17:12,390 --> 00:17:16,130 Stefan de Munk has confirmed that Free and Brechtje occasionally called it 173 00:17:16,130 --> 00:17:20,349 mobile number of Rijkswachter Beukelaars to get rid of him. Stefan de Munk 174 00:17:20,349 --> 00:17:21,670 he always speaks the truth. 175 00:17:22,530 --> 00:17:23,829 Maybe he called himself. 176 00:17:25,409 --> 00:17:29,330 Look, the reconstruction shows that Mrs. Palmer's time was up 177 00:17:29,330 --> 00:17:32,490 to make that phone call. Mr. De By the way, Munk was at home in bed with one 178 00:17:32,490 --> 00:17:34,710 framework. Oh, and a frame, that's one alibi. 179 00:17:35,490 --> 00:17:37,930 He still has one until further notice male voice. 180 00:17:38,250 --> 00:17:39,250 Master Spak? 181 00:17:44,970 --> 00:17:45,970 Wait a minute. 182 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:55,200 Stand there. 183 00:17:57,360 --> 00:17:59,200 Nela, would you like to take a seat on the stool? 184 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:06,660 Like forensics 185 00:18:06,660 --> 00:18:10,160 team has determined that the threatening video by Brechtje for this wall 186 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:14,440 made. The markings here on the wall match those in the background 187 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:17,900 of the video. Mrs. Palmers, have you made that threatening video? 188 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:20,000 No. 189 00:18:20,430 --> 00:18:23,890 We hebben hier tijdens de nieuwe huisdokking ook minuscule bloeddruppels 190 00:18:23,890 --> 00:18:24,990 found from Brechtje. 191 00:18:25,710 --> 00:18:27,490 Probably from her nosebleed. 192 00:18:28,690 --> 00:18:32,530 Mevrouw Palmers, mag ik u vragen de camera vast te nemen om mijn collega te 193 00:18:32,530 --> 00:18:33,530 filming? 194 00:18:38,790 --> 00:18:44,030 Zoals u kan zien, komt het kader van de originele video zo goed als overeen met 195 00:18:44,030 --> 00:18:47,250 that of the natural way mevrouw Palmers nu de camera vasthoudt. 196 00:18:47,350 --> 00:18:49,670 Yes, that's ridiculous. Come, I'm going filming. 197 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:51,040 Which frame do you want? 198 00:18:51,540 --> 00:18:53,220 Ja, daarin volg ik meester Spark. 199 00:18:53,860 --> 00:18:57,380 Okay, good. So I ask you again. Did you make that threatening video? 200 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:00,900 Ma'am, are we going to keep going in circles? turn? 201 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:03,840 No. 202 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,300 Let's lie down on the petters, please. 203 00:19:16,140 --> 00:19:19,840 Then we think that Brechtje is here on the bed with a pillow was smothered. 204 00:19:22,300 --> 00:19:26,800 I say thinking because this room was in 2000 was never thoroughly investigated. 205 00:19:27,120 --> 00:19:31,060 Then the body was moved to the crawling solder behind that false one 206 00:19:31,060 --> 00:19:32,060 wall. 207 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:33,700 We are sure of that. 208 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:55,280 Mrs. Pams? 209 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,400 Mrs. Pams, if I can do this, why you? not that? 210 00:20:11,940 --> 00:20:13,380 The turn is fine, ma'am. 211 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:17,160 Being falsely accused is dramatic enough for my clients. 212 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:23,040 On Brechtje and her corpse too wooden splinters found. 213 00:20:23,620 --> 00:20:26,660 A botanist could have done that match the wood of these planks. 214 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:31,120 Yes, and I have a sauna in that at home wood and terraces are being constructed 215 00:20:31,120 --> 00:20:32,039 dat hout. 216 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:35,380 Wat is dat hier, zeg? Er werd tussen de shelves also found blood we have 217 00:20:35,380 --> 00:20:36,600 can match that of Brechtje. 218 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,560 So for us that's actually quite certain dat haar lijk hier heeft gelegen. 219 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:51,360 Ik wil nogmaals herhalen dat mijn collega, wetsdokter Florkin, fantastisch 220 00:20:51,360 --> 00:20:52,640 werk geleverd heeft in 2000. 221 00:20:53,470 --> 00:20:55,430 Bij de autopsie van Brechtje Vindevogel. 222 00:20:56,290 --> 00:21:00,490 Ik ben het misschien niet eens met al zijn conclusies, maar hij heeft van de 223 00:21:00,490 --> 00:21:02,210 belangrijkste organen een biopsie taken. 224 00:21:02,790 --> 00:21:05,730 Waardoor ik met nieuwe technieken alles could investigate again. 225 00:21:06,610 --> 00:21:08,510 Met wat was u het oneens? 226 00:21:09,930 --> 00:21:12,250 Brechtje kan niet gestorven zijn door het schot van een slagpin. 227 00:21:12,730 --> 00:21:14,430 Ze is gestorven door verstikking. 228 00:21:15,030 --> 00:21:18,770 That's harder to detect, but it matches all data. 229 00:21:19,270 --> 00:21:20,270 And how? 230 00:21:20,610 --> 00:21:22,150 You would see drowning in the lungs. 231 00:21:22,650 --> 00:21:24,890 Strangulation from punctate hemorrhages in the eyes. 232 00:21:25,450 --> 00:21:29,810 But through the saved samples I have new staining of the bleeding marks 233 00:21:29,810 --> 00:21:31,450 can perform in the braincase. 234 00:21:31,990 --> 00:21:36,590 So I can say with certainty that the firing pin wounds were postmortem 235 00:21:36,590 --> 00:21:39,290 applied. Brechtje remembers that not resist? 236 00:21:39,690 --> 00:21:42,050 I would expect someone to do that anyway would do. 237 00:21:42,250 --> 00:21:45,350 We have a fairly high quantity valium found in her blood. 238 00:21:45,610 --> 00:21:50,110 So we think Brechtje first is intoxicated and then suffocated with a 239 00:21:50,110 --> 00:21:51,990 kiss. Did Brechtje wear jewelry? 240 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:53,740 When her body was examined? 241 00:21:54,120 --> 00:21:55,120 No. 242 00:21:55,500 --> 00:21:58,960 Not this amour necklace either? 243 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:00,320 No. 244 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:04,580 Yes, that is strange, because in my opinion clients, she wore them always and everywhere, 245 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,080 because it was a gift from Stefan. 246 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:12,280 And there were no marks on it can point out the chain by force 247 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:13,280 has decreased? 248 00:22:13,980 --> 00:22:14,980 No, nothing. 249 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:19,700 Madam Medical Examiner, you actually can scientifically prove that Mrs 250 00:22:19,700 --> 00:22:22,000 Palmers present at the crime scene was? 251 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:28,660 No, based on my research it is possible I cannot confirm that. I want the jury 252 00:22:28,660 --> 00:22:33,360 it should be noted that the firing pin which was used on Brechtje and on the 253 00:22:33,360 --> 00:22:36,880 dogs of Mr. Vindervogel were found is with Mrs.'s grandparents 254 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:37,880 Palmers. 255 00:22:38,360 --> 00:22:43,460 Dear members of the jury, what Mrs chief inspector here says is one 256 00:22:43,460 --> 00:22:44,460 textbook example. 257 00:22:45,120 --> 00:22:47,900 of what we consider suggestive information mention. 258 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:52,920 You have a nickname, I hear, Professor Mailleu. 259 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:56,240 Does that matter? 260 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:58,780 Doctor Death, right? 261 00:22:59,960 --> 00:23:00,960 And? 262 00:23:01,780 --> 00:23:05,920 Your colleagues may not accept you seriously? Master Spake! 263 00:23:06,540 --> 00:23:10,980 I'm not going to question your integrity pull, ma'am. Don't worry. I hear 264 00:23:10,980 --> 00:23:11,980 everywhere anyway... 265 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:16,080 that you are among the top in Europe. That's exactly why. 266 00:23:16,360 --> 00:23:20,020 Because what Mrs. Pasquale says here, is not correct. 267 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:26,300 That's exactly why I want to start from the top Hear Europe... you can 268 00:23:26,300 --> 00:23:32,620 scientifically certain... that the firing pin attached to the 269 00:23:32,620 --> 00:23:37,460 Mrs. Palmer's grandparents found... was used on the body 270 00:23:37,460 --> 00:23:38,560 by Brechtje Vindervoogd. 271 00:23:40,580 --> 00:23:43,680 No, no DNA has been found Brechtje on the firing pin. 272 00:23:44,260 --> 00:23:48,240 So it may as well be that the wound has healed became the body of Brechtje 273 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:52,380 caused by a different firing pin of same type. 274 00:23:52,900 --> 00:23:56,620 We did find metal flakes which show that the same material 275 00:23:56,620 --> 00:23:58,580 has been used by both Brechtje and by the dogs. 276 00:23:58,940 --> 00:24:00,680 I'll ask the question again. 277 00:24:01,020 --> 00:24:05,620 Became the grandparents' firing pin Mrs. Palmers used in the murder of 278 00:24:05,620 --> 00:24:06,620 Brechtje Vindervogel? 279 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,560 I can't do that with one hundred percent confirm certainty. 280 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:12,480 Thank you, Doctor Death. 281 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:39,280 Is Melona? 282 00:24:41,380 --> 00:24:43,300 I should have told her she's out there somewhere. 283 00:24:49,300 --> 00:24:51,060 I don't want Juliette to miss Davy. 284 00:24:53,700 --> 00:24:56,060 My children really liked Davy very sweet. 285 00:24:57,360 --> 00:25:00,200 Then they said that Juliette a little was acting strange. 286 00:25:02,360 --> 00:25:04,480 They say Juliette has autism. 287 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:06,720 The who? 288 00:25:08,029 --> 00:25:09,029 The behavioral therapist. 289 00:25:12,870 --> 00:25:14,810 How does that make her feel? 290 00:25:20,190 --> 00:25:21,550 Maybe you should ask her that. 291 00:25:21,790 --> 00:25:23,410 I think she'll be happy about that. 292 00:25:26,230 --> 00:25:27,230 Yes. 293 00:25:30,730 --> 00:25:32,150 Is it all a chain emergency? 294 00:25:41,570 --> 00:25:42,570 What do you think? 295 00:25:43,850 --> 00:25:46,950 Do you think Free's alibi checks out? that family party? 296 00:25:47,170 --> 00:25:48,790 Vera, I have no say in this. 297 00:25:49,950 --> 00:25:50,950 No one here, by the way. 298 00:25:51,150 --> 00:25:52,770 I would have liked to have been left alone. 299 00:25:56,290 --> 00:25:57,290 Come on. 300 00:25:57,630 --> 00:25:58,630 Say. 301 00:25:58,910 --> 00:25:59,910 What is? 302 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:18,420 Shouldn't you eat? – I am whole hungry. 303 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:21,599 Guys, right? 304 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:22,600 – Hello. 305 00:26:24,940 --> 00:26:27,240 I hardly dare open my mouth anymore to do to you. 306 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:29,480 Sorry, huh. 307 00:26:32,380 --> 00:26:34,480 It finally works here on mine nerves. 308 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:35,720 Real. 309 00:26:38,700 --> 00:26:40,720 I already know half of them are going votes. 310 00:26:40,980 --> 00:26:41,980 – Oh yes? 311 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:43,720 Can I vote? 312 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:45,880 Yes, you are in doubt. 313 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:48,280 No, not. 314 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,500 I just don't know how I got into the position am. 315 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,340 Just stop it. 316 00:26:54,580 --> 00:26:55,580 You're repeating yourself. 317 00:26:56,120 --> 00:26:59,840 That's all you care about there is no punishment. But that's not true. 318 00:27:03,860 --> 00:27:07,440 I had a bone to pick with the house of my parents. 319 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:08,800 Why? 320 00:27:09,260 --> 00:27:10,260 And? 321 00:27:11,180 --> 00:27:12,180 Shameful darling. 322 00:27:12,700 --> 00:27:15,700 But... I might just have to let go. 323 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,860 A lot... Ten percent. 324 00:27:20,660 --> 00:27:23,020 That's worth it. 325 00:27:26,060 --> 00:27:30,940 But I can always do something professional use advice. 326 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,880 We're going to start again. 327 00:27:44,570 --> 00:27:47,910 The reconstruction of the attack on Roos went a little less smoothly. 328 00:27:48,810 --> 00:27:54,710 Mrs. Palmers stated that she had worked alone until 10 p.m. in the evening 329 00:27:54,710 --> 00:27:56,030 in her office at school. 330 00:27:56,570 --> 00:28:03,550 However, she is filmed at 9:59 PM here, 200 meters from the 331 00:28:03,550 --> 00:28:04,750 home of Mr. De Munk. 332 00:28:05,230 --> 00:28:08,130 She said she walked on that one way home. 333 00:28:08,350 --> 00:28:11,890 It is still not the shortest route, as you see here. It's a detour. 334 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,000 but according to her it would have been safer are. 335 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:20,380 Her cell phone was on pity at this time enough out, so we have that data 336 00:28:20,380 --> 00:28:21,379 not. 337 00:28:21,380 --> 00:28:25,440 Roos wakes up at just after ten o'clock attacked, but Mrs. Palmers 338 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,140 refused to cooperate on this anymore reconstruction. 339 00:28:30,180 --> 00:28:36,440 This is the stone that makes the diamond has been effectively implemented. I'm going now 340 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,440 my colleague ask for us too demonstrate exactly how that happened. 341 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:58,900 Tiny fibers were also found on that stone made of polyester was found. We 342 00:28:58,900 --> 00:29:02,620 therefore suspect that the perpetrator is wearing gloves made of polyester. 343 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:07,600 Are the gloves that Mrs. Palmers on the street scenes bears the same 344 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:08,600 type of fiber? 345 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,640 We never got those gloves so I can't find it 346 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:12,640 confirm. 347 00:29:32,170 --> 00:29:36,410 The perpetrator must have Roos out of her bed lifted and placed on the ground. 348 00:29:36,770 --> 00:29:40,630 Then he or she has a glass shard taken. 349 00:29:41,730 --> 00:29:46,150 Neck injuries can occur we see that the perpetrator then does it 350 00:29:46,150 --> 00:29:50,070 pulled his head back and has cut a few times with a 351 00:29:50,070 --> 00:29:52,830 glass shard on the right side of the neck. 352 00:29:53,130 --> 00:29:56,130 Not deep, because Roos was different bled to death. 353 00:29:56,770 --> 00:30:01,130 Professor Mayeeuw, why would the perpetrator? cut a few times? 354 00:30:01,500 --> 00:30:03,160 We call this hesitation cuts. 355 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:07,540 The perpetrator underestimates the force required is to make a surface cut. 356 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,620 People try it once, twice. 357 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:11,860 It can't be that easy. 358 00:30:13,020 --> 00:30:16,820 Would you now say that the perpetrator is the child? only wanted to injure? 359 00:30:18,260 --> 00:30:22,300 As far as I'm concerned, no cuts were made with the intention of killing right away. 360 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:27,020 Does it require prior knowledge to do that kind of thing? make incisions? 361 00:30:27,900 --> 00:30:29,160 Not really, no. 362 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,460 So it's not like that for one ranching is necessarily easier. 363 00:30:34,300 --> 00:30:37,960 The anatomy of a toddler is something different from that of a cow. 364 00:30:38,660 --> 00:30:41,600 Could it be that the perpetrator is the child? knew well? 365 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,420 I can't make any statements about that. 366 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,440 Someone who studied to be a doctor? 367 00:30:48,620 --> 00:30:53,200 Yes, a doctor would know on this one way nothing vital is affected. 368 00:30:53,540 --> 00:30:54,900 It must have hurt. 369 00:30:55,180 --> 00:30:56,180 Yes. 370 00:30:57,140 --> 00:30:58,580 So Roos screamed. 371 00:30:59,370 --> 00:31:00,530 I think so, yes. 372 00:31:03,050 --> 00:31:05,170 Which hand do you think was used to cut? 373 00:31:06,070 --> 00:31:07,890 I can't say that. 374 00:31:08,550 --> 00:31:11,210 People always think that, but we cannot do with scientific ones 375 00:31:11,210 --> 00:31:15,330 determine with certainty whether a perpetrator is left or right handed. But suppose that 376 00:31:15,330 --> 00:31:18,090 you would have to choose which hand would you think first? 377 00:31:19,130 --> 00:31:21,070 I really can't say anything about that do. 378 00:31:21,350 --> 00:31:25,410 It depends on where the perpetrator is was in relation to Roos. 379 00:31:26,410 --> 00:31:27,810 If we take a look at the photo. 380 00:31:28,050 --> 00:31:31,710 So Rose lay on the floor next to her bed. 381 00:31:32,870 --> 00:31:36,790 The perpetrator cannot possibly reach the right side, because there 382 00:31:36,790 --> 00:31:38,110 is the bed. Correct? 383 00:31:38,350 --> 00:31:39,350 Yes, indeed. 384 00:31:40,170 --> 00:31:44,170 Suppose the perpetrator is on the left van Roos found. And then I look at the 385 00:31:44,170 --> 00:31:47,970 photos showing the injuries. Yes, then they seem to me to be made by a left-handed person 386 00:31:47,970 --> 00:31:49,230 person. 387 00:31:49,430 --> 00:31:53,310 In the position you are now proposing, corpses the hesitation cuts... 388 00:31:53,550 --> 00:31:55,650 Indeed, unusual for one right-handed. 389 00:31:56,530 --> 00:31:58,550 But I really can't rule that out. 390 00:31:58,950 --> 00:31:59,990 Okay, thank you. 391 00:32:03,310 --> 00:32:04,890 Yes, just say the word, ma'am. 392 00:32:05,310 --> 00:32:10,770 Is Mrs. Palmers left-handed? Ma'am the chairman, the professor says here 393 00:32:10,770 --> 00:32:12,090 just that it doesn't matter. 394 00:32:12,390 --> 00:32:14,230 Mrs. Palmers, are you left-handed? 395 00:32:15,810 --> 00:32:16,810 Yes. 396 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:21,680 Madam President, if you are that kind silly questions to my clients 397 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,020 then we might as well ask to the civil parties who are there 398 00:32:25,020 --> 00:32:28,520 are all left-handed. Anyone can who is left-handed in the civil 399 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,940 parties raise their hands, please? Good. 400 00:32:32,380 --> 00:32:36,700 Mr. Vindervogel, Mr. De Munck, Mrs Tindemans. Who is left-handed, 401 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:38,520 please raise your hand. 402 00:32:41,100 --> 00:32:45,760 The clerk notes that Mrs. Palmers is the only lefty here? 403 00:33:00,010 --> 00:33:01,830 You also use your sometimes left hand? 404 00:33:04,830 --> 00:33:05,890 I don't do much. 405 00:33:12,270 --> 00:33:14,210 I'm really bubbly, those lies. 406 00:33:18,730 --> 00:33:22,090 If you use those traps... Jesus, Margot, call me in jail or fly. 407 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:43,460 We speak of Mrs. Palmers as someone with a cluster B 408 00:33:43,460 --> 00:33:48,520 personality disorder. But the core of the entire cluster B is egocentrism. 409 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:53,540 If Free Palmers enters into a relationship, then she wants exclusivity. 410 00:33:53,820 --> 00:33:58,380 She can't do it in a sick way tolerate that her husband would be interested 411 00:33:58,380 --> 00:33:59,440 show for someone else. 412 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:03,100 So Stefan cheating was one big problem? 413 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:08,520 Yes. And the murder of your own child is appropriate also within that personality? 414 00:34:09,100 --> 00:34:13,659 Attacking the child can be revenge are on Mr. De Munk. As Mrs 415 00:34:13,659 --> 00:34:16,060 Can't get Palmer's rose, then he can neither. 416 00:34:16,940 --> 00:34:22,540 Mrs Verswijfel, my client is already here in treatment since her teenage years 417 00:34:22,540 --> 00:34:23,960 with psychiatrist De Leur. 418 00:34:24,380 --> 00:34:29,340 According to him, she shows all the characteristics of depression and she is a typical one 419 00:34:29,340 --> 00:34:34,600 borderline. That's a completely different one diagnosis than the one you give us here 420 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:38,480 submits. Mrs. Palmers has borderline characteristics, agreed. 421 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:40,500 But she is not a typical borderline. 422 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:45,260 She has been working as school principal. She has a long one 423 00:34:45,260 --> 00:34:49,460 had a relationship with Mr. De Munck. That is very atypical for a borderline. 424 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:55,239 Am I a borderline, ma'am? Doubt? I somehow understand that you are my 425 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:59,540 wants to undermine expertise, sir. But we are speaking here at Mrs. Palmer's 426 00:34:59,540 --> 00:35:01,020 about more than borderline. 427 00:35:01,420 --> 00:35:05,480 The narcissistic aspect for example is also very clearly present. 428 00:35:05,720 --> 00:35:07,280 Is Stefan De Munck a narcissist? 429 00:35:08,970 --> 00:35:12,950 I have not examined Mr. De Munk. Because he cannot tolerate distance either 430 00:35:12,950 --> 00:35:16,650 between him and his dab if that still a narcissist. 431 00:35:17,110 --> 00:35:20,690 I can't judge anyone which I have not researched. 432 00:35:21,230 --> 00:35:26,130 How long have you been with Mrs. Palmers? spoken, Mrs Verswijfel? 433 00:35:26,370 --> 00:35:30,430 We have had an interview about an hour and a half. An hour and a half. 434 00:35:30,770 --> 00:35:36,910 And in that hour and a half you are done these astonishing insights. 435 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:41,520 As a psychiatrist, I spend an hour and a half I don't know how someone works then 436 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:42,600 I don't know at five o'clock either. 437 00:35:42,820 --> 00:35:45,620 Suppose you spend an hour and a half with me spends, ma'am. 438 00:35:46,020 --> 00:35:50,620 Wouldn't you also like to include a number of characteristics? can find those that qualify me as 439 00:35:50,620 --> 00:35:52,400 a potential murderer? 440 00:35:53,460 --> 00:35:57,340 For that we should sit together, sir. I'm quite convinced 441 00:35:57,340 --> 00:36:01,780 that you would find those characteristics, ma'am. There's probably something in each of us 442 00:36:01,780 --> 00:36:06,020 a potential murderer. Only wants that doesn't mean we would that impulse 443 00:36:06,020 --> 00:36:07,020 must follow. 444 00:36:07,050 --> 00:36:11,450 See, to me, Mrs. Palmers is real someone who was psychopathic 445 00:36:11,450 --> 00:36:12,450 features. 446 00:36:13,470 --> 00:36:15,990 Psychopathized characteristics? It goes good progress here. 447 00:36:16,250 --> 00:36:19,990 Mrs Palmers scored more than average on the HairPCLR test. 448 00:36:20,930 --> 00:36:22,250 It's a chameleon. 449 00:36:22,530 --> 00:36:24,590 She adapts very quickly. 450 00:36:24,970 --> 00:36:27,710 We call that Mark of Sanity. 451 00:36:28,030 --> 00:36:33,610 And if she's so manipulative chameleon, who's to say they aren't you? 452 00:36:33,610 --> 00:36:34,569 misled? 453 00:36:34,570 --> 00:36:36,170 That is very possible. 454 00:36:36,970 --> 00:36:38,470 But then she does the same to you. 455 00:36:40,070 --> 00:36:44,790 Mrs Verswijffel, I would like to speak with you for a moment would like to point out something else. The federal one 456 00:36:44,790 --> 00:36:48,370 police have a polygraph test carried out. You were there? 457 00:36:48,870 --> 00:36:53,210 Beats. Last year the question came from Mr De Munck and Mrs Palmers themselves 458 00:36:53,210 --> 00:36:55,250 to undergo a polygraph test. 459 00:36:55,490 --> 00:36:59,590 And they both persisted with neither to do with murders? 460 00:36:59,850 --> 00:37:04,790 Yes. What did Mrs. Palmers answer to the ask if she had injured Roos with one 461 00:37:04,790 --> 00:37:05,790 glass shard? 462 00:37:06,020 --> 00:37:10,020 No. And that was the answer truthful? Yes. 463 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:16,100 But also Mr. De Munck, his answer to that same question was truthful. 464 00:37:16,420 --> 00:37:21,080 I'm not asked to judge Mr. De's psychological report 465 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:24,200 Munck. Mrs Verswijfel, would you like to? answers to my question? 466 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,940 Is this relevant to my testimony? 467 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,120 Yes, that is relevant. 468 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:37,420 As I understood it was also Mr. De Munks answer the question truthfully 469 00:37:37,420 --> 00:37:40,700 did you wound Roos in the throat with one? glass shard? 470 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,720 Mrs. Palmers lied about a certain one question? 471 00:37:44,180 --> 00:37:47,420 No. So she always told the truth? 472 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,300 Some people can do the lie detector bypass. 473 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,580 The test relies on the difference in emotions. 474 00:37:54,340 --> 00:37:56,840 A cool narcissist can lie without it sweating. 475 00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,020 I'm not a fan of that one myself polygraph. 476 00:38:00,790 --> 00:38:03,930 But there was one with Mr. De Munk lie, right? 477 00:38:04,310 --> 00:38:06,290 Yes. To which question? 478 00:38:07,710 --> 00:38:09,990 When asked if he had Brechtje murdered. 479 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:42,320 How is my Lola? 480 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:46,100 She was home once. 481 00:38:47,300 --> 00:38:49,520 She definitely wants her as hard as possible are. 482 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:52,800 No, I'm not going home. 483 00:38:53,020 --> 00:38:54,020 I'm going to a hotel. 484 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:55,360 At a hotel? 485 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:56,960 How? 486 00:38:57,720 --> 00:38:58,720 Yes. 487 00:38:59,380 --> 00:39:02,000 Mike would rather not have me come home sleep. 488 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:07,800 Is that guy going completely crazy? No, I don't feel like arguing right now. 489 00:39:08,660 --> 00:39:09,800 Do you know something? 490 00:39:10,490 --> 00:39:11,590 Here, now in Ghent. 491 00:39:12,830 --> 00:39:14,730 Come on Delphine, you had your blue language. 492 00:39:16,650 --> 00:39:18,090 Yes, something small. 493 00:39:22,590 --> 00:39:23,590 Hotel Noel. 494 00:39:26,230 --> 00:39:27,330 Sounds good too. 495 00:39:28,750 --> 00:39:30,090 No, but I mean it, don't you? 496 00:39:31,690 --> 00:39:34,930 I'll sleep on the sofa, cunt. Stay overnight as long as you want. 497 00:39:35,250 --> 00:39:36,870 The street is around the corner. 498 00:39:39,370 --> 00:39:40,370 It doesn't have to happen like this, does it? 499 00:39:42,430 --> 00:39:44,050 Okay. Voila. 500 00:39:55,810 --> 00:39:56,930 Hello, Madame Keusters. 501 00:39:57,850 --> 00:39:59,390 Sell ​​me your big villa sometime. 502 00:40:02,610 --> 00:40:05,750 It's half an acre of land. 503 00:40:06,730 --> 00:40:11,550 And it is 390 square meters of habitable space surface. What does anyone have for sure? 504 00:40:11,550 --> 00:40:16,190 estimated? 3,295,000. And what is it finally happened? 505 00:40:17,670 --> 00:40:18,850 395,000 less. 506 00:40:19,130 --> 00:40:20,130 Nice. 507 00:40:22,490 --> 00:40:25,190 A psychological barrier to get here come and live, they say. 508 00:40:58,280 --> 00:40:59,280 No, I'd rather not. 509 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:04,920 Here, listen. 510 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:31,440 Does that bother Carla? 511 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:35,360 Please. 512 00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:38,260 Are you in love with it? 513 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:45,680 Sorry, but this is one reconstruction too a lot for today. 514 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:51,560 And if I start liking you? 515 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,500 Really, Carla, that's one of mine work. 516 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:56,860 No, just bring it to me. 517 00:42:12,100 --> 00:42:19,080 Ant. At our work there is a... Is there a brasé if it's not legal 518 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:20,080 fallen from adjustment? 519 00:42:21,740 --> 00:42:23,500 My brother and I towed it. 520 00:42:24,720 --> 00:42:26,640 That person died in the hospital. 521 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,200 And Carla, that was his wife. 522 00:43:38,250 --> 00:43:39,250 Is Lola okay? 523 00:43:39,490 --> 00:43:40,730 – Yes. 524 00:43:42,230 --> 00:43:43,230 Okay. 525 00:43:46,490 --> 00:43:47,550 Where's her dad? 526 00:43:50,430 --> 00:43:52,130 How do you feel about that diagnosis? 527 00:43:53,750 --> 00:43:55,430 What kind of question is there now? 528 00:43:57,850 --> 00:44:00,470 I promised someone that I would give you that was going to ask. 529 00:44:02,790 --> 00:44:03,790 Okay. 530 00:44:06,970 --> 00:44:07,970 And? 531 00:44:10,150 --> 00:44:16,030 I don't understand that question. 532 00:44:17,910 --> 00:44:23,950 When you say feels, then I think hard or soft. 533 00:44:27,650 --> 00:44:34,570 But... They say that on the triangle words can also do other things 534 00:44:34,570 --> 00:44:37,320 mean. That I have to learn that. 535 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,640 And Davy and you, is that serious? 536 00:44:45,660 --> 00:44:46,660 Davy is my love. 537 00:44:49,620 --> 00:44:54,340 That one... That one helps me when everything is too much becomes. 538 00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:57,520 Otherwise there's way too much in me head. 539 00:45:00,060 --> 00:45:02,380 For me there is always too much in me head. 540 00:45:05,220 --> 00:45:07,140 Mom says that's why we're twelfth. 541 00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:20,040 Upcoming version. 542 00:47:04,620 --> 00:47:05,720 Who is not healthy?